ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two saddle bag, 4.1 l

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

I was deciding between 1.6L and 4.1L, since I would probably like the 2 liter one the most, in the end I chose the bigger one, for my uncle's sake. Compared to the previously used Kellys Coby 2, this one is already a bit wider in the front part, so it is not a problem to push a MTB 29" tube there and next to it, for example, a jacket, which I could not do with the one from Kellys. The bag has a plastic inside that it basically defines its minimum volume. On the one hand, it has the advantage that the bag holds its shape, on the other hand, if you don't fill this minimum volume, it will rattle in it. But comrades from the GDR after all, they made a mistake - in the way of closing - when you close the bag according to the instructions, i.e. roll it upwards, it creates a "pool" in which water accumulates in the rain and gravel flying away from the rear wheel in the dry (but this can be useful if you're just building a house ) The solution is to roll it the other way around ( just like kellys Coby 2 ), which prevents the bag from doing so and also covers the reflective elements on the bottom of the bag. And one more "surprise" - to attach the k holder "retro" screws for a Phillips screwdriver ( PH ) are included with the saddle.

... update after several months of use: I'm removing one star. My bag fell out of the holder during one descent on broken terrain in the forest (it stayed in place on the saddle rails) and blocked the rear wheel. There was also a break in the bag and a broken buckle. I couldn't explain how it happened, because I was convinced that it was properly clicked in the carrier and I didn't have a similar problem in the previous two months of use. I decided to complain about the bag, the complaint was not accepted, but they repaired the hole and replaced the broken buckle (thumbs up to the authorized service for that). The reason for rejecting the claim was that the bag was probably not properly latched in the holder. So I threw the pannier on the bike, this time making sure it was properly latched and didn't tend to fall out. She held like a nail in place. Well, right on the first ride, again when going down a bumpy forest road, the bag came loose. Fortunately, it was now unscathed. And I probably also know the reason why it happens - the velcro that attaches the bag to the seatpost is relatively narrow, weak (it sticks poorly), with narrower seatposts (e.g. the upper part of the telescope) the contact area is small and easily unglued, and thus in the case of larger shocks, the bag may snap out of the holder. I can't explain it otherwise, because after snapping it into the holder, the bag holds like a nail.

And one more thing - storing things in the pannier when it is clipped to the saddle is almost a superhuman feat, thanks to the inserted smooth plastic reinforcement, the objects tend to slide out of the pannier, so you store something and by the time you turn (bend) to get the next thing, the inserted ones they are already half way out. The solution is to store things in a snap-on bag stored with the opening facing up, but it's a bit impractical.

... and by the third time, again on a shaky road, the bag clicked off, even though I secured the velcro against ungluing. so, in my opinion, the bag is only suitable for asphalt roads

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Great product. I can easily fit a multi-key, a CO2 canister with a pump, a classic pump and tube, a wallet, 4 bananas and some bars and sweets in there. If I removed some of it, for example the bananas, I could probably fit a thin summer windbreaker in there.

The only downside that I didn't realize when I bought it is that it is attached to a quick release mechanism that needs to be firmly mounted in the skis. On the one hand, it's great because it's very easy to remove and put back in - literally 3 seconds. But if you want to use multiple seatposts of different sizes, for example, this will be hell for you because you probably won't be able to put another seatpost in there. Plus, I had to move the saddle slightly backwards so that the mechanism could fit on the skis at all. This has to be taken into account.

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

It holds firmly, does not move to the sides like other types without an underseat holder, opens and closes easily and does not interfere at all. For me personally, the volume was completely sufficient for both BRM400 and 200. The plastic reinforcement is used to maintain the shape, and since it is rollable, it can be adapted to the size needs.

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

This bag is something between a mini vercajg pocket and large bikepacking bags.
It mainly fits into the XS frame between the saddle and the wheel. It can fit what you need at work to change clothes and a towel.
Top construction, closure better than a zipper, wide opening.

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Better system than zip. It always gradually got stuck to me from dust and then ended completely. The bag stays in place and I can put a winter jacket and a soul in it, a key, sticks, gloves and a hat ?
At the same time, it can be pulled down to the level of the soul of the gloves and cap... Great buy

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Nice bag, maybe a little noisy in the field because the plastic shakes. But great for the road. For the field I recommend bags with a strap fastening under the saddle

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Doteraz najlepšia kúpa kapsičky,dám do nej zimnú bundu a ešte mám miesto - úžasné...

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

So this is the TOP among the TOP. The price corresponds to it.

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Kvalitne spracovanie, jednoducha montaz

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Skvelé, odolné,dobre drží pod sedlom.

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Holds in place, great volume (t-shirt, jacket, vest, pump, inner tube, case for glasses, cookies... and still a spare). One star down for the lack of drain
valve. How difficult it is to get air out of the bag when packing, if you don't want it to be like a balloon.

*edit: After a month I found a "grif" to release the air. You have to press down with your stomach, expel the air and roll. So 0.5 points up

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Super vec - objem sa prisposobi potrebam.
Posluzi aj ako blatnik😉 - nedostanes na chrbat tolko vody z kolies.
Slabina - suchy zips okolo sedlovky - kratky pre aerosedlovku - vymenil som za par centov za iny SZ

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Výborné uchytenie, ľahko sa zacvakáva pod sedadlo. Kvalitný materiál. Chýba vypúšťací ventil na vzduch - problém zo zatváraním - nafukne sa.

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

It is not suitable for a suspension bike with a telescopic seatpost. It rubs against the wheel during a rough descent,

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l

Waterproof it is.
Holds a firm yes.
..absolutely every China noname bag is better, it's just a tunnel where there's also plastic inside, when you put it on you'll get a hard time with tools. and the complete tragedy is the short straps. you can't buy that model of buckles, so I'll press it. I have acid xl where there is one strap pocket lined with fabric inside, and the buckles are so long that I can put more stuff in there than in this 4l.

Variant ORTLIEB Saddle-Bag Two podsedlová brašňa, 4.1 l