Super B TB-WS30 professional work stand, orange

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

I was looking for an upgrade for my previously sent cheap stand, and the priorities when choosing were stability, strength, practicality.
After much deliberation, I chose this model mainly with the expectation of strength because the clamp is made of steel and of top quality. That clamp is clearly the best quality part of the entire stand. It deserves other components. The stability is excellent, but the flexibility of the stand pipes and especially the PLASTIC connecting parts is huge. A clamped enduro 14kg bike twists the stand behind the seat tube so that the handlebars drop by a good 15cm. It's not a wobble, it's just the flexibility of the parts.
The stand also has a couple of imperfections that could be removed during the design and would significantly improve the rigidity. The axis on which the head of the stand is folded is bent. It is not possible to tighten it more without adjustments, it must be shortened.
The screw of the quick clamp holding the extendable tube is so long that it does not allow to increase the tightening of the clamp and therefore, despite closing the clamp, the entire upper part rotates too easily around the increased tube. Again, it is necessary to shorten the screw, and it would probably help to use carbon paste on the friction joint. I haven't tried it yet because I fold the stand after work and leave it all covered with paste.
All the joints on the legs have minimal play (design intention, for easier folding), but this adds to the flexibility of the system, even when pulled, it does not wobble, it just springs.
The head itself is held in a PLASTIC saddle. The saddle looks strong enough, but nothing restricts the amount of movement in the handle (it is only held by the folding axis and a small plastic nut), there is a visible movement when the head is pulled back. It might be solved by a steel escapement around the entire joint, but that would make folding the stand very complicated.

Overall, I am satisfied with the stand, you get what you pay for. If it didn't have these minor problems, I don't know what would be better on the 500E racks. It is more than enough for regular service, but you can't tighten or loosen the BB on the rack (you'd probably tear off some part of the rack). Also worth mentioning is the dental system of turning the head. It is very well designed, the teeth have an optimal shape and with a little care, it is possible to fold the bike without folding it from the stand. Unfortunately, this mechanism is still plastic, so I'm a little worried about the life of the teeth. All in all, if they replaced everything plastic with duralumin/steel and fixed the specifications dude (cones, for example), then there would be nothing to complain about and the stand could compete with 500E pieces.

Hladal som upgrade za moj predosly lacny stojan a priority pri vybere boli stabilita pevnost praktickost.
Vybral som po dlhom uvazovani tento model hlavne s ocakavanim pevnosti lebo svorka je ocelova a v top kvalitativnom prevedeni. Ta svorka je jednoznacne najkvalitnejsia cast celeho stojanu. Zasluzila by si ine ostatne komponenty. Stabilita je vyborn,a ale pruznost trubiek stojanu a hlavne PLASTOVYCH spojovacich dielov je obrovska. Upnuty enduro 14kg bike za sedlovu trubku skruti stojan tak ze riaditka kelsnu o dobrych 15cm. Nie je to vakel, je to proste pruznost dielov.
Stojan ma aj par nedorobkov ktore odstranit pri navrhu by nestalo nic a vyrazne by to zlepsilo tuhost. Oska na ktorej sa sklapa hlava stojanu ma volu, Nie je ju mozne bez uprav viac pritiahnut, je nutne ju skratit.
Skrutka rychloupinaka drziaceho vysuvnu trubku je tak dlha, ze neumoznuje zvysit pritiahnutie upinaku a preto sa aj napriek zavretieu upinaku cela vrchna cast prilis lahko otaca okolo zvyslej trubky. Opat nutne skratit skrutku a zrejme by pomohlo aj pouzit carbon pastu na ten treci spoj. Zatial som neskusal lebo stojan po praci skladam a nechem ho mat cely od pasty.
Vsetky spoje na nohach maju minimalnu volu (konstrukcny umysel, pre lahsie skladanie) to ale pridava na pruznosti systemu i ked zatazeny sa nevakle, len pruzi.
Samotna hlava drzi v PLASTOVOM sedle. Sedlo je na pohlad dostatocne pevne, ale na kolko volu v uchyte nic nevymedzuje (drzi to len oska sklapania a jedna mala plastova matica) je tam viditelny pohyb pri zatazeni hlavy na krut. Mozno by to vyriesila ocelova eskapaska okolo celeho spoja, ale to by velmi skomplykovalo skladanie stojanu.

Celkovo som zo stojanom spokojny, clovek dostane za co zaplati. Keby nemal tieto drobne problemy neviem co by bolo na tych 500E stojanoch lepsie. Na bezny servis je viac nez dostatocny, ale BB na stojane nedotiahnete ani nepovolite (asi by ste skor utrhli nejaky diel stojanu). Za zmienku stoji este zubovy sytem otacania hlavy. Je velmi dovbre navrhnuty, zuby maju optimalny tvar a s trochou opatrnosti je mozne bicykel naklapat bez jeho skladania zo stojanu. Bohuzial, tento mechanizmus je opat plastovy a preto mam trocha obavy o zivotnost zubov. Celkovo keby vsetko plasotve vymenili za dural/ocel a doriesili vymedzenia vole (konusy napr) tak by tomu nebolo co vytknut a stojan by mohol konkurovat 500E kuskom.

Variant Super B TB-WS30 montážny stojan, oranžová

I had a stand that didn't suit me. It was complicated to put together and the fastening was solved by pulling the nuts and even then it did not hold reliably.
The person didn't even want to attach a bike to it. He was looking for something more practical.
I looked at several racks in this price range in stores. They often have a clamping part made of plastic.
I have no experience with it, how durable it is, but I still trust the aluminum version more.
This stand is therefore a bit heavier. I read on the manufacturer's website that it should carry 40 kg, I don't believe it at all.
but the mounting design is robust enough that I would not be afraid to mount an ebike there as well.
It's not the cheapest, but the service doesn't suit me in terms of price or time flexibility. I ride almost every day and I don't have time to take the bike to the service.

Plus: The settings are sufficient. It can be rotated in all directions and the attachment is universal. It holds the desired position and does not twist if everything is tightened well.
The clamping can be adjusted comfortably with one hand. The tray is well designed. There is no need to screw anything, it just slides in and holds.
The head can be folded down and after folding the tripod, it takes up about as much space as smaller adult skis, with the fact that it is a little thicker.
For an idea, if someone needs to transport or store it. I have also seen smaller and more compact racks, but they were clumsier.

Minus: Since the tripod is foldable and there is some freedom for manipulation, the structure swings a little in all directions.
The stability is not bad, but you have to play with the position of the legs of the tripod and the bike. In certain places it can tip over if the bike is directed between the legs.

When fully unfolded, the tripod takes up quite a bit of space. If the clamping head and half the length of the bicycle handlebar are added to the stand, it already requires a space of min. 1.5 m to be able to move there.
How much the tripod opens can be adjusted, but this will significantly affect stability.
Attaching to the seatpost takes up less space because the bike can be tilted closer to the rack. However, there is already a limited adjustment of the inclination and it will be all kinds of crooked, which is not a problem at all for some tasks.

Mal som stojan ktorý mi nevyhovoval. Komplikovane sa to skladalo a upínanie bolo riešené zaťahovaním matiek a aj tak to nedržalo spolahlivo.
To sa človeku ani nechcelo do toho upínať bike. Hľadal niečo praktickejšie.
Pozeral som v predajniach viac stojanov v tejto cenovej kategórii. Často majú upínaciu časť s plastu.
Nemám s tým skúsenosť akú to má odolnosť ale predsa viac dôverujem hliníkovému prevedeniu.
Tento stojan je teda aj o niečo ťažší. Na stránke výrobcu som sa dočítal že by to malo uniesť 40kg tomu úplne neverím,
ale prevedenie upínania je dosť robustné že by som sa nebál tam upevniť aj ebike.
Nie je to najlacnejšie ale servis mi nevyhovuje cenovo ani časovou flexibilitou. Jazdím takmer denne a nemám čas bike nosiť do servisu.

Plus: Nastavenia sú dostatočné. Dá sa to otáčať na všetky strany a uchytenie je univerzálne. Drží to želanú polohu a neskrúca sa to, ak sa všetko dobre zatiahne.
Upínanie sa dá nastaviť pohodlne jednou rukou. Dobre je riešená tácka. Nie je potrebné nič šrobovať len sa to nasunie a drží to.
Hlava sa dá sklopiť a po zložení trojnožky to zaberie miesta asi ako menšie dospelé lyže, s tým že to je o trochu hrubšie.
Pre predstavu ak by to potreboval niekto prepravovať alebo uskladňovať. Videl som aj menšie a skladnejšie stojany ale boli denglavejšie.

Minus: Tým že trojnožka je skladacia a je tam určitá vôľa na manipuláciu tak trochu sa konštrukcia hojdá do všetkých strán.
Stabilita nie je zlá ale treba sa pohrať s polohou nožičiek trojnožky a bicykla. V určitých miestach sa to môže prevrátiť ak sa nasmeruje bike medzi nožičky.

Po úplnom rozložení zaberie trojnožka dosť veľa miesta. Ak sa ku stojanu pripočíta upínacia hlava a polovina dĺžky riadidla bicykla už to chce priestor min. 1.5m aby sa tam dalo aj pohnúť.
Nakoľko sa trojnožka otvorí sa dá nastaviť ale to výrazne ovplyvní stabilitu.
Uchytenie za sedlovku zaberie menej miesta lebo sa dá bike prikloniť bližšie ku stojanu. Tam už je ale obmedzené nastavovanie sklonu a bude tak všelijako nakrivo, čo pri niektorých úkonoch vôbec nevadí.

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

I am satisfied with the stand. The clamping mechanism has a wide range of applications. It works robustly and stably. I do not assume that even after long use, it will be necessary to make any structural changes in the attachment of individual parts. I recommend a stand.

So stojanom som spokojný. Uchytávací mechanizmus má široký rozsah použitia. Pôsobí robustne a stabilne. Nepredpokladám, že ani po dlhom používaní bude treba robiť nejaké konštrukčné zmeny v uchytení jednotlivých dielov. Odporúčam stojan.

Variant Super B TB-WS30 montážny stojan, oranžová

clamped to the top tube is stable, I have to clamp the torch to the seatpost, there you have to find the right position of rotation in relation to the legs of the stand, but then the bike works well, for me, satisfaction with the stand.

upnutý cesťák za hornú trubku je stabilný, horák musím upínať za sedlovku, tam treba nájsť správnu polohu natočenia voči nohám stojana ale potom sa bicyklom dobre pracuje, za mňa spokojnosť so stojanom.

Variant Super B TB-WS30 montážny stojan, oranžová

A bit more expensive than I originally planned to pay for the stand, but it's great.
- teeth against rotation when holding the seat post (does not fall down the front of the bike)
- the head can be folded down

Kus drahsi ako som povodne planoval dat za stojan, ale je super.
- zubky proti pootoceniu pri uchyteni za sedlovku (nepada predne koleho dole)
- hlavica sa da sklopit

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

stabilizers within the load capacity of the spacers, adjustability, easy unfastening/fastening of the bike. satisfaction.

stabiliny v ramci nosnosti rozpier, nastavitelnost, lahke odopnutie/pripnutie bicykla. spokojnost.

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

Excellent workmanship, stable, takes up minimal space when folded.

Vyborne spracovanie, stabilny, v zlozenom stave zabera minimum miesta.

Variant Super B TB-WS30 montážny stojan, oranžová

Strong, well-storable stand at a very reasonable price. Satisfaction.

Silný, dobre skladný stojan za celkom prijateľnú cenu. Spokojnosť.

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

I am satisfied. It is fully sufficient for home service needs.

Som spokojný. Pre potreby domáceho servisu plne postačuje.

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

Relax. It's been in operation for a month and I tuned the gears right away

Spoko. Uz mesiac v prevadzke a hned som poladil prevody

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

Stable, flexible, beautiful. It can also carry a 25-kg ebike.

Stabilný, flexibilný, pekný. Unesie aj 25-kg ebike.

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

solid, stable, easy to work with, I recommend it

pevný ,stabilný, dobre sa s ním pracuje odporúčam

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

I can recommend - stable, solid, foldable.

Mozem odporucit - stabilny, pevny, zlozitelny.

Variant Super B TB-WS30 montážny stojan, oranžová

Super stand, stable

Super stojan, stabilný

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

Great satisfaction

Veľká spokojnosť

Variant Super B TB-WS30 montážny stojan, oranžová

Super stable

Super stabilny

Variant Super B TB-WS30 montážny stojan, oranžová

Satisfaction.

Spokojnosť.

Variant Super B TB-WS30 montážny stojan, oranžová

Excellent.

Výborné.

Variant Super B TB-WS20 montážny stojan, oranžová

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